Beginning with the premise that the attack must be taken seriously, Eric Havelock shows that Plato’s hostility is explained by the continued domination of the. PREFACE TO PLATO science and to morality: the major Greek poets from. Homer to Euripides must be excluded from the educational system of Greece. Preface to Plato has ratings and 7 reviews. Tim said: For those billions of you loosing sleep each night trying to figure out why Plato was so hostil.

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Eric A. Havelock

No trivia or quizzes yet. Read more Read less. Havelock’s claim was that the Republic can be used to understand the position of poetry in the “history of the Greek platl. Science Logic and Mathematics. Havelock’s aim is to situate you in the ancient Greece of Plato’s day and explain exactly what Plato is on about.

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Ships from and poato by Amazon. In the latter part platto his career, Havelock’s relentless pursuit of his unvarying thesis led to a lack of interest in addressing opposing viewpoints. Havelock also has a story to tell about how and why philosophy originated in ancient Greece, beginning with Hesiod’s catalog of the gods, and the following attempts to abstract knowledge as concepts from its original mythic context.

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Knowledge and myth were indistinguishable. Gregg Miller rated it it was amazing Mar 04, In his book The Liberal Temper in Greek Politicshe argued that for Democritus and the liberals, political theory was based on an understanding of “the behaviour of man in a cosmic and historical setting”: Add both to Cart Add both to List.

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University of Washington Press, ], 6. Ana Hwvelock rated it it was amazing Aug 03, Monthly downloads Sorry, there are not enough data points to plot this chart. Granted, Homer’s gods do not always serve as erric exemplars, but that is only a side issue for Plato and for Havelock’s reading of Plato. Ong’s influential Orality and Literacy other than Ong himself. Were it not for the title, it might be read for what it is, rather than as an essay in utopian political theory.

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There are no discussion topics on this book yet. While studying under F. And it might even be half true! Russell and Russell,i. Havelock makes a lot of other insightful points about vocabularly etc, havelick of which went over my head. Sign in to use this feature. Intellectual Critics of Popular Rule. In Homer, Havelock argues, the order of ideas is associative and temporal.

Harvard University Press Amazon. The second part gavelock the book discusses the Platonic Forms as an aspect of an increasingly rational culture. Far from being a Platonic eccentricity Havelock manages to present Plato’s views on poetry and mimesis as the logical consequence of his ideas about knowledge and ethics. For those billions of you loosing sleep each night trying to figure out why Plato was so hostile to poetry in the Republic, this book will give you sweet dreamless sleep, whiter teeth, and shrink your waistline while you feast on chocolate and pork rinds.


However, while few people claim to be Platonic idealists, the way we continue to describe our world in abstractions definitely has deeper hwvelock to Plato then I initially thought.

Despite calls from Ontario officials for his ouster, he was able to remain at Victoria College, but his public reputation was badly damaged. Although he was trained in the turn-of-theth-century Oxbridge tradition of classical studies, which saw Greek intellectual history as an unbroken chain of related ideas, Havelock broke radically with his own teachers and proposed an entirely new model for understanding the classical world, based on a sharp division between literature of the 6th and 5th centuries BC on the one hand, and that of the 4th erci the other.

Alyssa rated it really liked it Oct 30, One of the association’s first activities was organising a relief effort for Greecewhich had just been liberated from Nazi control. Plato, through Socrates, indulges in a huge polemic. Customers who bought this item also bought.

Plato’s Dialogues One by One. Poetry as Preserved Communication. Instead of concentrating on the philosophical definitions of key terms, as he had in his book on Democritus, Havelock turned to the Greek language itself, arguing that the meaning of words changed after the full development of written literature to admit a self-reflective subject; even prevacehe said, had different functions.

Strauss died 14 years later inthe same year in which Havelock retired.